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‎1891 12 Magpie Hall Lane, Luton, Chatham, Kent, England;

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man William John Ball‏‎ 1)
Born ‎5 Sep 1866 Dunster, Somerset, England‎ 2) 3) 4) 5) 6) 1) 7) 8) 9) 10)
Baptised ‎7 Oct 1866 Dunster, Somerset, England 7)
Died ‎18 Jan 1928 Wilgate, London Road, Sittingbourne, Kent, England‎, 61 years 2) 11)
Occupations: , ‎1881 Creech St Michael, Somerset, England; Machine Boy at Paper Mill 8), ‎1886; Coach-builder 12), ‎between 1890 and 1900 Canton, Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales; Papermaker 3) 9) 13), ‎between 1901 and 1911 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales; Foreman Papermaker 4) 10), ‎2 Apr 1911 Sittingbourne, Kent, England; Paper Maker (Foreman) 1)
Residences: ‎1871 Collumpton Hill, Bradninch, Devon, England 5), ‎1881 Creech Village, Creech St Michael, Somerset, England 8), ‎1891 22 Egerton Street, Canton, Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales 3), ‎between 1900 and 1901 45 Forrest Road, Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales 4) 13), ‎2 Apr 1911 95 Park Road, Milton, Sittingbourne, Kent, England 1), ‎1886 22 Trinity Street, Brandon Hill, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England 12), ‎1921 Milton, Sittingbourne, Kent, England 14)

Religion: Member of St Michael's Lodge - Freemason ‎between 1911 and 1921 Sittingbourne, Kent, England 10)
Will signed: ‎29 Feb 1928 London, England 11)


Notes: William John, lived with his mother (Jane Ball) and step-father (George Quick) in Bradninch for the initial years of his life. Bradninch is a small town situated on the river Culm. As early as 1790 there were said to be five paper mills within two miles of Bradninch. Many found employment in these mills as is evident from census returns. By 1881, the family had, however, moved to Creech St Michael, near Taunton. They were probably living in the Creech paper mill houses alongside the works. The 1881 census states that George Quick was employed as a blacksmith (mill), Jane was present, and William John, then 15 years old, a “step-son”, was a “paper machine boy”. By this date Jane had had three more children, Sarah Ann aged nine, John aged 7, and Alice Rose aged 1 year. Both Sarah Ann and John had been born at Bradninch, but the youngest, Alice, was born at Creech. William's older sister Elizabeth was not present and she was not at Dunster with the Woolcotts either. No doubt she had started work some years before.
How long the Quick family stayed at Creech St Michael is not known but by June 1886 “George Quick smith” appears in a Cardiff Directory then living at Pen-y-Peel Road, Canton. At the time of the 1891c ensus George and Jane Quick and their family, but excluding William John, were living at 334 Cowbridge Road, Canton. George had evidently set himself up as a “Master and Employer”. His son John was at the time apprentice to him.

William John was not living at this address because on 2nd April 1890 at the church of St John the Evangelist, Clifton, Bristol, then aged 23, a paper maker of Canton, he had married Lucy Ann Downing, a spinster, aged 21 of Grover Place, Redland, Bristol. Her father was John Downing, a farmer. Lucy Ann was employed at Grove Place, Bristol, looking after the children of the rector who probably also performed the marriage service. Her father and mother and nearly all her family had emigrated to Pennsylvania between 1883 and 1888 but an uncle William Downing and an Aunt Elizabeth Harding, youngest sister of John Downing, were both living in Roath, Cardiff; the former at 12 Cepper Kincraig Street and the latter at 52 Richards Terrace. It seems likely William John and Lucy Ann met in these surroundings as Roath is not far from Canton.

In 1893 William Ball paper maker is recorded in a Cardiff Directory living at 22 Egerton Street, Canton, and later in 1897 at 17 Nottingham Street, also Canton. William would have been employed at The Ely Paper Mill to the west of Canton which had been founded in 1865. By 189- it was the largest producer of newsprint in the United Kingdom. Today it is owned by Wiggens Tempe and is the production centre for their carbonless paper operations.

The children of William and Lucy Ann were, with the exception of one daughter, all born at Canton. These were Florence Daisy 1891, John William 1893, Herbert Frederick 1894, Wilfred C. 1900 and Kathleen Rosina 1903. Lilian Ann was born after the family moved to Sittingbourne after 1903.

In Sittingbourne they lived firstly at 95 Park Road, later moving to 3 London Road, a house named Woodsell and finally to the house next door named “Wilgate”. Woodsell today is the offices of Andrew Cory and Co., solicitors.

Around 1926 as a result of a change of ownership of The Sittingbourne Paper Mills where William was then employed as Chief Paper Maker, he was required to retire early. He died two years later on 18th January 1928. Lucy Ann died on 18th December 1964 at the Kent and Sussex Hospital then aged ninety-five. She is buried with William John in Sittingbourne Cemetery.

Married ‎2 Apr 1890 St John the Evangelist, Clifton, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England 15) 1) 16) 9) (37 years married)
to:

woman Lucy Ann Downing‏‎ 1)
Born ‎1 Jan 1869 Kilkhampton, Cornwall, England‎ 3) 17) 18) 19) 20) 21) 1) 22) 23) 9)
Baptised ‎4 Feb 1869 Kilkhampton, Cornwall, England 20)
Died ‎18 Dec 1964 The Kent and Sussex Hospital, Tunbridge Wells, Kent, England‎, 95 years 21) 24)
Occupations: ‎1881 Downrowe, Whitstone, Cornwall, England; Scholar 23), ‎1890 21 Grove Place, Clifton, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England; Looking after the children of the rector 25), ‎1939 131 Estridge Way, Tonbridge, Kent, England; Household Duties Unpaid 22)
Residences: ‎1871 Stamford Hill, Poughill, Cornwall, England 17), ‎1891 22 Egerton Street, Canton, Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales 3), ‎1881 Downrowe, Whitstone, Cornwall, England 23), ‎between 1900 and 1901 45 Forrest Road, Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales 19) 13), ‎2 Apr 1911 95 Park Road, Milton, Sittingbourne, Kent, England 1), ‎between 1939 and 18 Dec 1964 131 Estridge Way, Tonbridge, Kent, England 24) 22), ‎2 Apr 1890 21 Grove Place, Clifton, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England 9), ‎after 1912 Woodsell, 3 London Road, Sittingbourne, Kent, England 25), ‎after 1913 Wilgate, London Road, Sittingbourne, Kent, England 25), ‎1886 22 Trinity Street, Brandon Hill, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England 12), ‎1921 Milton, Sittingbourne, Kent, England 14)

Will signed: ‎24 Feb 1965 London, England 24)

Children:

1.
woman Florence Daisy Ball‏‎
Born ‎1886‎ 12)
2.
man John William Ball‏‎
Born ‎1893‎

Notes: Married in Bombay.
3.
man Herbert Frederick Ball‏‎
Born ‎1894‎
4.
man Wilfred Charles Ball‏‎
Born ‎1900‎ 13)
Died ‎1976‎, 75 or 76 years
5.
woman Rosina Jane Ball‏‎
Born ‎1904‎
6.
woman Lilian Ann Ball‏ 16) 26) 27)
Born ‎12 Oct 1905 Sittingbourne, Kent, England‎ 28) 29) 1) 16) 30)
Died ‎12 Jan 1999 Croydon, Surrey, England‎, 93 years 28) 16) 31)
Occupation: ‎1939; Unpaid Domestic Duties 30)
Residences: ‎2 Apr 1911 95 Park Road, Milton, Sittingbourne, Kent, England 1), ‎between 1949 and 1978 35 Brancaster Lane, Purley, Surrey, England 32) 32) 32) 32) 32) 32) 32) 32) 32) 32) 32) 32) 32) 32) 32) 32) 32) 32) 32) 32) 32) 32) 32) 32) 32) 32) 33) 34) 35), ‎between 1978 and 1984 65 Norman Avenue, Croydon, Surrey, England 36) 36) 36) 36) 36) 36) 36) 36) 36) 36) 36) 36) 36) 36) 36), ‎1939 2 Bigginwood Road, Norbury, Surrey, England 30)

Will signed: ‎10 Feb 1999 Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England 31)


Notes: Lilian Ball is recorded as having entered Canada to go on to the US in 1920 (aged 15); presumably to see her mother's family who were all residing in the US by this time.

Sources

1) Source: 1911 England Census Record for Lilian Ann Ball. Reference: Database online. (Data from direct source)
2) Source: England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Record for William J Ball. Reference: Database online. (Questionable reliability of evidence)
3) Source: 1891 Wales Census Record for William Ball. Reference: Database online. (Data from secondary evidence)
4) Source: 1901 Wales Census Record for William J Ball. Reference: Database online. Class: RG13; Piece: 4986; Folio: 133; Page: 54. (Data from secondary evidence)
5) Source: 1871 England Census Record for William Ball. Reference: Database online. Class: RG10; Piece: 2165; Folio: 43; Page: 12; GSU roll: 832043. (Data from secondary evidence)
6) Source: England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915 Record for William Ball. Reference: Database online. (Questionable reliability of evidence)
7) Source: Somerset, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1914 Record for William Ball - Dunster Baptisms 1843-1871. External Link
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=SomersetParishBirths&h=715087&indiv=try. Reference: Somerset Heritage Service; Taunton, Somerset, England; Somerset Parish Records, 1538-1913; Reference Number: D\P\du/2/1/7 (Data from secondary evidence)
8) Source: 1881 England Census Record for Jane Quick. Reference: Database online. Class: RG11; Piece: 2365; Folio: 103; Page: 7; GSU roll: 1341569. (Data from secondary evidence)
9) Source: Bristol, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1935 Record for William Ball. External Link
https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=61686&h=786865&indiv=try. Reference: Bristol Archives; Bristol, England; Bristol Church of England Parish Registers; Reference: P/St JC/R/2/c (Data from secondary evidence)
10) Source: England, United Grand Lodge of England Freemason Membership Registers, 1751-1921 Record for William John Ball. External Link
https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=60620&h=592627&indiv=try. Reference: Library and Museum of Freemasonry; London, England; Freemasonry Membership Registers; Description: Membership Registers: Country O 1208-1296 to Country P 1299-1390; Reel Number: 47
11) Source: England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995 Ball William John of Wilgate London-road Sittingbourne Kent died 18 January 1928. Probate London 29 February to Lucy Ann Ball widow. Effects £1808 15s. 3d.. Reference: Database online. (Data from secondary evidence)
12) Source: Bristol, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1918 Record for Florence Daisy Ball. External Link
https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=61685&h=30598029&indiv=try. Reference: Bristol Archives; Bristol, England; Bristol Church of England Parish Registers; Reference: P/St.GB/R/1/b (Data from direct source)
13) Source: Glamorganshire, Wales, Anglican Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1570-1994 Record for Lucy Ball. External Link
https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=62105&h=300391518&indiv=try. Reference: Archives Wales; Wales; Glamorgan Baptisms, Marriages and Burials (Data from direct source)
14) Source: 1921 England Census. Reference: Record for William John Ball, and family (Data from secondary evidence)
15) Source: England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915 Record for William Ball. Reference: Database online.
16) Source: Living Sources. Reference: E A Overbury
17) Source: 1871 England Census Record for John Downing. Reference: Database online. Class: RG10; Piece: 2215; Folio: 5; Page: 2; GSU roll: 834867. (Data from secondary evidence)
18) Source: England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915 Record for Lucy Ann Downing. Reference: Database online. (Questionable reliability of evidence)
19) Source: 1901 Wales Census Record for Lucy A Ball. Reference: Database online. Class: RG13; Piece: 4986; Folio: 133; Page: 54. (Data from secondary evidence)
20) Source: Cornwall, England - Parish Register Transcripts Kilkhampton Bible Christian: Lucy Ann Downing, daughter of John (farmer) and Ann, of Poughill, baptised at parent's houes 4 February 1869. Reference: Record 96981 in the Baptisms Nc database (Questionable reliability of evidence)
21) Source: England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Record for Lucy A Ball. Reference: Database online. (Questionable reliability of evidence)
22) Source: National Registration: 1939 Register Record for Lucy Ann Downing and nurse, Florence D Taylor. Reference: RG101/1795H/014/32 (Data from direct source)
23) Source: 1881 England Census Record for John Downing. Reference: Database online. Class: RG11; Piece: 2271; Folio: 84; Page: 3; GSU roll: 1341545. (Data from secondary evidence)
24) Source: England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995 "Ball Lucy Ann of 131 Eatridge Way Tonbridge died 18 December 1964 at The Kent and Sussex Hospital Tunbridge Wells Probate London 24 February to Florence Daisy Taylor widow and Herbert Frederick Ball retired chartered surveyor. £3509.". Reference: Database online. (Data from secondary evidence)
25) Source: Ball and Downing Texts "William John was not living at this address because on 2nd April 1890 at the church of St John the Evangelist, Clifton, Bristol, then aged 23, a paper maker of Canton, he had married Lucy Ann owning, a spinster, aged 21 of Grove Place, Redland, Bristol. Her father was John Downing, a farmer. The details of their marriage have been known for many years. Lucy Ann was employed at Grove Place, Bristol, looking after the children of the rector who probably also performed the marriage service. Her father and mother and nearly all her family had emigrated to Pennsylvania between 1883 and 1888 but an uncle William Downing and an Aunt Elizabeth Harding, youngest sister of John Downing, were both living in Roath, Cardiff; the former at 12 Upper Kincraig Street and the latter at 52 Richards Terrace. It seems likely William John and Lucy Ann met in these surroundings as Roath is not far from Canton.In 1893 William Ball paper maker is recorded in a Cardiff Directory living at 22 Egerton Street, Canton, and later in 1897 at 17 Nottingham Street, also Canton. William would have been employed at The Ely Paper Mill to the west of Canton which had been founded in 1865. By 189- it was the largest producer of newsprint in the United Kingdom. Today it is owned by Wiggens Tempe and is the production centre for their carbonless paper operations.The children of William and Lucy Ann were, with the exception of one daughter, all born at Canton. These were Florence Daisy 1891, John William 1893, Herbert Frederick 1894, Wilfred C. 1900 and Kathleen Rosina 1903. Lilian Ann was born after the family moved to Sittingbourne after 1903.In Sittingbourne they lived firstly at 95 Park Road, later moving to 3 London Road, a house named Woodsell and finally to the house next door named “Wilgate”. Woodsell today is the offices of Andrew Cory and Co., solicitors.Around 1926 as a result of a change of ownership of The Sittingbourne Paper Mills where William was then employed as Chief Paper Maker, he was required to retire early. He died two years later on 18th January 1928. Lucy Ann died on 18th December 1964 at the Kent and Sussex Hospital then aged ninety-five. She is buried with William John in Sittingbourne Cemetery. " (Questionable reliability of evidence)
26) Source: England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1916-2005 Record for Elizabeth A Overbury. Reference: Database online. (Questionable reliability of evidence)
27) Source: England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1916-2005 Record for Janet F Overbury. Reference: Database online. (Questionable reliability of evidence)
28) Source: England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Record for Lilian Ann Overbury. Reference: Database online. (Questionable reliability of evidence)
29) Source: England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915 Record for Lilian Ann Ball. Reference: Database online. (Questionable reliability of evidence)
30) Source: National Registration: 1939 Register Record for Eric B Overbury, Lilian A Overbury and three children. Reference: RG101/1282A/008/6 (Data from direct source)
31) Source: England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995 Lilian Ann Overbury, died 12 January 1999, probate 10 Februrary 1999, registered at Newcastle Upon Tyne. Probate number 66988. Reference: Probate Search (Data from secondary evidence)
32) Source: British Phone Books, 1880-1984 Record for E B Overbury. Reference: Database online. (Data from direct source)
33) Source: London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 Record for Eric B Overbury. Reference: LCC/PER/B/3010 (Data from direct source)
34) Source: Surrey, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1962 Record for Lilian A Overbury. External Link
https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=4829&h=82101888&indiv=try. Reference: Surrey History Centre; Woking, Surrey, England; Surrey Electoral Registers; Reference: CC802/60/4 (Data from direct source)
35) Source: Surrey, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1962 Record for Lilian A Overbury. External Link
https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=4829&h=76893899&indiv=try. Reference: Surrey History Centre; Woking, Surrey, England; Surrey Electoral Registers; Reference: CC802/65/4 (Data from direct source)
36) Source: British Phone Books, 1880-1984 Record for L A Overbury. Reference: Database online. (Data from direct source)