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‎Between 935 and 963;

William III of Aquitaine was recorded as "Count of Poitiers"

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No. of families2146
Most children13
No. of individuals4595

Family


woman Wintelan Oldcastle‏‎ 1)
Baptised ‎1392 1)

Married ‎after 1404 1) (at most 39 years married)
to:

man Robert Whitney, Knight‏‎ 2)
Died ‎12 Mar 1443 1)
Election: MP for Herefordshire ‎between Mar 1416 and 1422 1)


Notes: The will of Perryn, Lady Clanvowe, dated 3 April 1422 names both her brother, Sir Robert Whitney, and her niece, “Jane”, to whom she leaves £20 “to her mariage or when she is of age”. (The Identity of Margaret, Wife of John Parles).

Perryn, Lady Clanvowe, is Robert II Whitney's sister - widow of Sir Thomas Clanvowe. On this basis, we can conclude Joan's father was the Robert Whitney who married Wintelan Oldcastle.Wintelan's father, Thomas Oldcastle was well acquainted with Thomas Walweyn (father of William Walweyn who married his grandaughter) - for example, both fought together in Ireland and Thomas Oldcastle left £200 to Thomas Walweyn for his daughters' upkeep.

Child:

1.
woman Joan Whitney‏ 3) 2)
Born ‎± 1415‎ 4)
Died ‎after 1445‎ 3)

Sources

1) Source: The History of Parliament . External Link
https://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1386-1421/member/whitney-sir-robert-ii-1443. Reference: WHITNEY, Sir Robert II (d.1443), of Whitney-on-Wye and Pencombe, Herefs. (Unreliable evidence or estimated data)
2) Source: THE IDENTITY OF MARGARET, WIFE OF JOHN PARLES "In addition to the unreferenced statement by Burke, two other records support the identification of Joan Walwyn/Welford as a member of the Whitney family. The first of these is the Book of Baglan, a collection of pedigrees by John Williams, compiled in about 1600 – that is, some 150 years after Joan Walwyn/Weldon’s lifetime. These pedigrees (p.34) state that “Jaen (sic) Whitney ma[rried] Walwyn of Longford. Taken on its own, this late source would not be of great value. However, it is supported by a second, contemporary piece of evidence. This consists of a set of stained glass images across the county border in Worcestershire, in Great Malvern church (Chambers, 1817, p.40) which, though damaged, remain partially extant. Installed during the early part of the 15th century (Rushworth, 1936), they originally depicted “Willielmus Walwein et Jana uxor eius” [William Walwyn and Jane his wife].Above these were placed two heraldic shields, the first displaying the arms of Whitney (azure, a cross chequy or and sable), and the second showing Walwyn of Longford (gules, on a bend argent a mullet sable) impaling Whitney – ie, indicating that ‘Jane Walweyn’ was a Whitney by birth. Fragments of the images have been replaced in one of the clerestory lights in the north of the chancel – including the lady’s face – while the two sets of arms are still (December 2008) in situ in the south chanceltransept". External Link
https://fmg.ac/phocadownload/userupload/foundations3/JN-03-02/108Parles.pdf. Reference: Page 110 (Data from secondary evidence)
3) Source: Court of Common Pleas, General Eyres and Court of King's Bench: Feet of Fines Files, Richard I - Henry VII "The manor of Langeford' and 12 messuages, 600 acres of land, 120 acres of meadow, 100 acres of pasture, 40 acres of wood and 10 pounds of rent in Langeford', Lugwardyn', Lorteporte, Hampton' Ep'i, Boterley and Auynbury...John and John have granted to William and Joan the manor and tenements, and have rendered them to them in the court, to hold to William and Joan and the heirs begotten by William Walweyn' on the body of Joan, of the chief lords for ever. In default of such heirs, after the decease of William and Joan the manor and tenements shall remain to the right heirs of William Walweyn'." Dated: 1445. External Link
http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/fines/abstracts/CP_25_1_83_56.shtml. Reference: CP 25/1/83/56 (Data from secondary evidence)
4) Source: The History of Parliament Based on her older brother being born 1413.. External Link
https://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1386-1421/member/whitney-sir-robert-ii-1443. Reference: WHITNEY, Sir Robert II (d.1443), of Whitney-on-Wye and Pencombe, Herefs. (Questionable reliability of evidence)