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John Cooper was recorded as "Puddler, Iron Works"

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woman Nichole de Canteloup‏‎


Notes: See "Maud de Lucy".

Married ‎before 1235
to:

man Geoffrey de Lucy‏‎


Notes: See "Maud de Lucy".

Child:

1.
woman Maud de Lucy‏ 1)
Born ‎± 1245
Died ‎after 1288‎

Notes: Maud's identity as a "de Lucy" can be demonstrated through a variety of sources: see https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/soc.genealogy.medieval/897MUDip7Mo.

If it is accepted that Maud was a "de Lucy", which seems reasonable given she appears as such in several medieval manuscripts - e.g. what appears to be a genealogy of the founders of Chaucombe Priory - then the bigger challenge is identifying Maud's parents.

Douglas Richardson identifies five principal pieces of evidence to identify Maud's place within the "de Lucy" family:

1. "Sir Nicholas and his wife, Maud, named a son, Geoffrey, which name previously was not found in the Segrave family."

2. "Sir Nicholas de Segrave is recorded as having gone of pilgrimage to Pontigny together with Geoffrey de Lucy...[who] was the son and heir of an earlier Sir Geoffrey de Lucy [died 1252], of Newington, Kent, Cublington, Buckinghamshire, Dallington and Slapton, Northamptonshire, etc., by Nichole, daughter of Sir William de Cantelowe. "

3. "Bishop Thomas de Cantelowe's hunting party in Malvern Hills [in 1278] consisted of his nephew, John de Tregoz (mistakenly called his brother-in-law), Nicholas de Segrave (husband of Maud de Lucy), and Geoffrey and Fulk de Lucy. So once again we find Sir Nicholas de Segrave associated with Sir Geoffrey de Lucy."

4. "Sir Geoffrey de Lucy [died 1284] is known to have had one brother, Sir Amaury de Lucy, of Newington, Kent, Luton, Bedfordshire, Boxworth, Cambridgeshire, etc., who died without issue in 1285... John de Segrave is named above as one of the two executors of the will of Amaury de Lucy. John de Segrave named here can be identified as Sir John de Segrave, 2nd Lord Segrave (born about 1256, died 1325), ... son and heir of Sir Nicholas de Segrave, 1st Lord Segrave [died 1295], and his wife, Maud de Lucy. Assuming that Maud de Lucy was the sister of Sir Geoffrey de Lucy and his brother, Sir Amaury de Lucy, then John de Segrave the executor was the nephew of Sir Amaury de Lucy."

5. "Further evidence of the Segrave-Lucy-Cantelowe connection is provided by the fact that Sir John de Saint John (died 1302), of Basing, Hampshire, a known Cantelowe descendant, referred to Sir John de Segrave (died 1325), 2nd Lord Segrave, as his cousin ["notre cosin"] in a letter dated c.1300."

Sources

1) Source: The Mowbray Estate "Reginald de Henton; and Sir Nicholas de Segrave and Lady Maud his wife. n.d." Evidences that Maud was Nicholas's wife.. External Link
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/2b51ffbc-0111-465c-ab4a-d6c4a9c667f6. Reference: BCM/D/5/5/2 (Questionable reliability of evidence)