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Family


man Thomas Walweyn‏‎ 1) 2) 3)
Died ‎between 19 and 20 May 1415 2) 3)
Election: Elected 4 times as MP for Herefordshire ‎between Jan 1396/97 and Oct 1404 2)
Will signed: ‎Mar 1414/15 3)


Notes: Thomas was a member of the Herefordshire gentry. His primary residence was Much Marcle inherited from his mother. He added additional properties in Ruardean and St Briavels following his marriage to Isabel, a Hatheway co-heiress.

Identified as father of William who marries Joan Whitney primarily on basis of PCC wills.

Married ‎before 1381 1) (33 or 34 years married)
to:

woman Isabel Hatheway‏‎ 1) 2) 3)
Born ‎± 1360 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Or maybe as early as 1360 depending which IPM is believed.1) 4)
Died ‎1430‎, approximately 70 years 2)

Notes: Accused of "forcible entry of the manor of Langford at the head of a band of Welshmen", at some point following the death of her husband, Thomas Walweyn. (C 1/69/230)

Child:

1.
man William Walweyn‏ 5) 6)
Died ‎± 1445 7)

Notes: Of Longford.

This William Walweyn is not the same individual as the William Walweyn who married Joan Greyndour. Fundamentally, this is evidenced by them both having different heirs for properties attached with the same terms (e.g. Longford goes to John Walweyn, whereas the Greyndour inheritance goes to Alice).

William Walweyn comes into ownership of the manor of Longford which is inherited by his descendants.

A mullet on Willliam's coat of arms in Great Malvern suggest he was a third son - and hence why he did not inherit Much Marcle from his father.

Sources

1) Source: Chancery: Inquisitions Post Mortem, Series I, Richard II "Isabel, one of the daughters and heirs of Thomas Hathewy...Writ to the escheator to take proof of the age of the said Isabel, on the petition of Thomas Walleweyn, her husband. 14 February, 5 Richard II...Isabel was born at Rewardyn on Sunday after the feast of St. John the Baptist, 38 Edward III, and was baptized in the church there."Dated: 1381. External Link
https://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol15/pp256-273. Reference: C 136/23/6 (Data from secondary evidence)
2) Source: The History of Parliament . External Link
http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1386-1421/member/walwyn-thomas-ii-1415. Reference: Walwyn, Thomas II (d.1415), of Hellions in Much Marcle, Herefs. (Questionable reliability of evidence)
3) Source: England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858 Identifies Thomas's brother as William Walweyn of Bickerton, and his son William Walweyn.. External Link
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_q=%22PROB+11%2F2B%2F40%22. Reference: PROB 11/2B/40 (Data from direct source)
4) Source: Chancery: Inquisitions Post Mortem, Series I, Edward III "Thomas Hathewy...Ruardyn. A waste messuage, a dovecot, 80a. arable and 26s. 8d. rent of assise, held of the king in chief...the king’s chief forester throughout the forest of Dene...He died on 2 January last...The said Thomas had three daughters only on the day of his death, all still surviving, to wit, Isabel, now aged 16 years and more, Sibyl, now aged 14 years and more, and Ellen, now aged 13 years and more."Dated: 20 January 1375/6. External Link
https://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol14/pp227-237. Reference: C 135/254/15 (Data from secondary evidence)
5) Source: Court of Common Pleas, General Eyres and Court of King's Bench: Feet of Fines Files, Richard I - Henry VII "The manor of Langeford' and 12 messuages, 600 acres of land, 120 acres of meadow, 100 acres of pasture, 40 acres of wood and 10 pounds of rent in Langeford', Lugwardyn', Lorteporte, Hampton' Ep'i, Boterley and Auynbury...John and John have granted to William and Joan the manor and tenements, and have rendered them to them in the court, to hold to William and Joan and the heirs begotten by William Walweyn' on the body of Joan, of the chief lords for ever. In default of such heirs, after the decease of William and Joan the manor and tenements shall remain to the right heirs of William Walweyn'." Dated: 1445. External Link
http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/fines/abstracts/CP_25_1_83_56.shtml. Reference: CP 25/1/83/56 (Data from secondary evidence)
6) Source: THE IDENTITY OF MARGARET, WIFE OF JOHN PARLES "In addition to the unreferenced statement by Burke, two other records support the identification of Joan Walwyn/Welford as a member of the Whitney family. The first of these is the Book of Baglan, a collection of pedigrees by John Williams, compiled in about 1600 – that is, some 150 years after Joan Walwyn/Weldon’s lifetime. These pedigrees (p.34) state that “Jaen (sic) Whitney ma[rried] Walwyn of Longford. Taken on its own, this late source would not be of great value. However, it is supported by a second, contemporary piece of evidence. This consists of a set of stained glass images across the county border in Worcestershire, in Great Malvern church (Chambers, 1817, p.40) which, though damaged, remain partially extant. Installed during the early part of the 15th century (Rushworth, 1936), they originally depicted “Willielmus Walwein et Jana uxor eius” [William Walwyn and Jane his wife].Above these were placed two heraldic shields, the first displaying the arms of Whitney (azure, a cross chequy or and sable), and the second showing Walwyn of Longford (gules, on a bend argent a mullet sable) impaling Whitney – ie, indicating that ‘Jane Walweyn’ was a Whitney by birth. Fragments of the images have been replaced in one of the clerestory lights in the north of the chancel – including the lady’s face – while the two sets of arms are still (December 2008) in situ in the south chanceltransept". External Link
https://fmg.ac/phocadownload/userupload/foundations3/JN-03-02/108Parles.pdf. Reference: Page 110 (Data from secondary evidence)
7) Source: Court of Common Pleas, General Eyres and Court of King's Bench: Feet of Fines Files, Richard I - Henry VII "The manor of Langeford' and 12 messuages, 600 acres of land, 120 acres of meadow, 100 acres of pasture, 40 acres of wood and 10 pounds of rent in Langeford', Lugwardyn', Lorteporte, Hampton' Ep'i, Boterley and Auynbury...John and John have granted to William and Joan the manor and tenements, and have rendered them to them in the court, to hold to William and Joan and the heirs begotten by William Walweyn' on the body of Joan, of the chief lords for ever. In default of such heirs, after the decease of William and Joan the manor and tenements shall remain to the right heirs of William Walweyn'." Dated: 1445 Settlement of the manor of Longford on or around William's death.. External Link
http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/fines/abstracts/CP_25_1_83_56.shtml. Reference: CP 25/1/83/56 (Data from direct source)